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18 Apr 2012

“Listen! The Lord is coming with countless thousands of his holy ones to execute judgment on the people of the world. He will convict everyone of all the ungodly things they have done and for all the insults that ungodly sinners have spoken against him.” (Enoch as quoted by Jude)

In the church there are people who will try to convince you that God allows us to live immoral lives.  Their argument is since God is all loving and forgiving, he will not allow anyone to perish.

Yet, according to the writings of Jude 1, these people deny Jesus Christ. How?
On the one hand they claim to know God by the revelations they talk about. While on the other hand, they
  • live immorally, defy authority, and scoff at things they don't understand
  • grumble and complain
  • brag about themselves
  • flatter others to get what they want
  • live only to satisfy their own desires
It is through this contradictory lifestyle they try to convince you. "I call myself a Christian, a church-goer, but am not prepared to live as a child of God."

remember
  • Jesus rescued Israel from Egypt, but later destroyed people who didn't remain faithful
  • The angels who didn't stay within the limits of the authority God gave were imprisoned
  • Sodom and Gomorrah and their neighboring towns were destroyed for their immoral living as a warning of the eternal fire of God’s judgment
beware
When someone claims to know God but lives for themselves they will not only bring destruction upon themselves.  To merely be around them, even at a church worship service could, if you are not vigilant cause you too to stumble.

17 Apr 2012

4:28 pm Posted by Bigfish69 Posted in , , , , , , , , ,
introduction
Why are certain actions, attitudes, and ways people live viewed with a special kind of disdain?  Why are they given a level of badness above others?  Pedophilia, murder, rape, are just a few examples.

Another, and the example used here is homosexuality.  Why?  Because in recent years, not far behind when speaking of marriage, is the topic of whether or not homosexuals (people who sexually desire the same gender as themselves) should be entitled to marry, with the same legal privileges as heterosexual people (people who sexually desire the opposite gender to themselves).

NOTE: This exploration is not intended to prove whether or not homosexuality is acceptable or a sin.  Rather, it is an attempt to ask whether we are justified to judge and shun people based upon personal, social, or religious views.

marriage is for a male and female only
  • “gay marriage” is bad  because…
  • the act of homosexuality is bad, therefore …
  • people who are homosexual are not normal and
  • sometimes considered unsaved in a Christian sense
anyone should be allowed to marry (mm, ff, mf)
  • I feel normal and/or I know people who are homosexual who are not bad.  In fact some state Jesus as their saviour. Therefore…
  • I am normal, therefore…
  • homosexuality is just part of who I am, therefore…
  • when I want to get married I should be able to
quick analysis
The difficulty when entering this argument is both sides appear “right” in their own eyes. But have another look. A circular argument is occurring through the blurring of the lines between the person and their sexuality. We are equating the inner worth of a person with who they have sex with. Heterosexual marriage = good normal person. Homosexual = bad abnormal person. Therefore,
  • if you disagree with gay marriage you probably have other judgments about the men and women involved
  • if you are a man or woman who is homosexual you probably consider yourself an ordinary person because you know how you feel and think
what does the bible say?
There are four main passages in the bible that speak directly of homosexuality.  The first two mentions appear in this context as the Hebrew word shakab, meaning "to lie together sexually".  Both  appear in the same Old Testament book called Leviticus:
  • “Do not practice homosexuality, having sex with another man as with a woman. It is a detestable sin." (Lev 18:22)
  • “If a man practices homosexuality, having sex with another man as with a woman, both men have committed a detestable act. They must both be put to death, for they are guilty of a capital offense." (Lev 20:13)
The other two direct references to homosexuality is the Greek word arsenokoites, each within a different book of the New Testament:

Paul starts by explaining of our need to resolve disputes instead of taking legal action because that would prove our unwillingness to love one another. It is even better to simply accept the injustice put upon us and leave it at that (1 Co 6:1-8).

Why?  Because anyone, yes even you, who does wrong will not inherit God’s Kingdom!
The examples of wrongdoing Paul gives includes indulging in sexual sin, worshiping idols, committing adultery, prostitution, homosexuality, stealing, or being greedy, an alcoholic, abusive, or cheating (1 Co 6:9-10), murdering, slave trading, lying, breaking a promise, or simply having evil thoughts, deceit, lust, envy, slander, pride, being foolish (1 Tim 1:8-11; Mk 7:21-23), being hostile, quarreling, jealous, outbursts of anger, selfish ambition, dissension, division, envy, drunkenness, or wild parties (Gal 5:19-21).

Indeed, Jesus explained that all these things come from your inner parts and that it is this  inner stuff that defiles you well before you act upon it (Mk 7:21-23).

Read Matthew 5.  What is Jesus explaining?  Is it enough to point at people whose actions seem obvious because we can see them, or do we need to consider something else?  How can you apply what you learn here into the above list of 'wrongdoings'?

For example, finish the following sentence: “You have heard it said, no one who sleeps with another person of the same sex will enter God’s Kingdom, but I (Jesus) say to you …”
Paul then continues by speaking of our need to stop committing these acts once we realize who Jesus is and how he has caused us to be right with God (1 Co 6:12-20).  But does Paul declare one or more of the listed wrongdoings better or worse than any other? 

Why?

Which of these listed actions do you recognize in your life?  What about when you apply what you found by understanding Matthew 5 (the “you have heard it said” ones)?

Paul also explains that … God’s law, when used correctly is good because it helps people live correctly.  The law was "not intended for people who do what is right, but for people who are lawless, rebellious, ungodly, or sinful, anyone who does anything that contradicts the teaching of Jesus Christ” (1 Tim 5:8-11).

conclusion
So, if you found yourself guilty of any of the wrongdoings, then you are living in opposition to Jesus, and need God's law.  Does it matter whether you choose to include or exclude homosexuality in this list?  No.  There will be one or more other things you will be found guilty of.

Thank Jesus for his mercy.  For, even though Paul used to blaspheme his name, persecute, and kill his people, Jesus showed him who he is and why he came to earth.  By being forgiven, Paul became an example proving Jesus came to save sinners, all sinners, no matter how horrendous your actions (1 Tim 5:12-17).

13 Apr 2012

9:17 am Posted by Bigfish69 Posted in , ,

King David turned to the assembly and said, “My son Solomon, whom God has chosen as Israel’s next king, is still young and inexperienced. The work ahead of him is enormous, for the Temple he will build is for God himself!  Using every resource at my command, I have gathered as much as I could for building the Temple of my God. Now there is enough … The people rejoiced over the offerings, for they had given freely and wholeheartedly to the Lord, and King David was filled with joy. (1 Chronicles 29)

Can this passage from the Old Testament of the Bible be justified to initiate and sustain a church building venture today?

If it can, it does so because we assume constructing buildings for God is his intention.  And if it is, then we must pursue this goal no matter what.  The outcome is already decided.

In addition, if constructing buildings for God is his desire, then let us look at the examples when Jesus sought to do so and asked his disciples to likewise do so.  When you do, search the New Testament using words like temple, house, and church.

How did you go?  What is the context that these structures are referred to?  Are they ever referred to in the sense churches today use them (i.e. places to worship, do community, serve, etc)?  And if they are, were they pre-existing structures or ones Jesus and his disciples sought to build or asked others to build?
  • When Jesus said he would destroy the Temple in Jerusalem and rebuilt it in three days what was he referring to? (John 2:13-22)
  • Where is God’s Spirit said to dwell? (e.g. 1Co 3:16; 1Co 6:19; 1Co 12; 2Co 6:16; Eph 2)
  • Where does God, the Father want to live? (John15)
 Is God for or against us erecting church buildings?  Read Haggai 1:1-11 and Luke 9:28-31.  But for the moment that is not the point.  The point is how we define the church: by its structures and activities or its people and its character.  Because depending which we choose, will determine how we see God and how he interact with the world and the people in it.

12 Apr 2012

4:39 pm Posted by Bigfish69 Posted in , , , , , ,
by Elsie Hemming

Tears flowed down my cheeks as I read the letter from Father which was opened after his murder.  His love and forgiveness for his killers makes me feel ashamed and distressed.  For some months, I have felt guilty about not seeing Christ in pedophiles, terrorists, killers of women in the name of 'honour' - I know I should but I cannot believe that Christ could live in such people.

My daughter disagrees with me.  She tells me that until a person accepts Christ and recieves the holy Spirit, we should not expect to see Christ in that person.

Then I recall that Christ died for ALL people, and cannot reconcile that fact with relegating those I believe are guilty of heinous crimes in limbo.  Who am I to judge my fellows?  I have no right to do so.  But I do.  My mind and heart fight one another.

My mind whirls round and round.  Surely, these days, too much is made of the sinner and not enough of the victims.  If I feel love for the evil ones, am I not condoning evil?  If I condone evil, I am as evil as the perpetrators.  Love the sinner, and hate the sin, I have been taught, but how do I separate them?  There would be no sin without the sinner.

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