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30 Dec 2013

4:51 pm Posted by Bigfish69 Posted in
Do you ever say anything that is not 100% true? Do you ever behave selfishly?  Do you ever do or say things which show favour to one person over another?

If the answer to these examples is even yes, 1%, and you are likely to do this even in thought, then ...

And if it is true that if you break even one of God,s laws you break the all, then ...

It is impossible to do or say anything to fix this situation.  You could spend the rest of your life doing this or doing that to improve your behaviour, but it would still be but filthy rags(ref).

This is not to say that it is important to try and treat people and yourself more lovingly, better if you like.

But to believe that you can do something to make you relationship with God better is foolish at best.  It also states that you do not need Ch (ref) who himself claimed to be all that as needed (ref)

17 Feb 2013

4:13 pm Posted by Bigfish69 Posted in
ksmn1526lIs it really possible to change or is the way you are set?  In other words, is the reason you behave the way you do a result of some kind of "hard-wiring" or is it possible to change?  Indeed, does God design people to be a certain way? If he did, does this mean you are "programmed" to act in certain ways?

And yet the Bible states Jesus came so we could be set free of our sins and therefore choose to live in ways that God asks of us.

Consequently, if we are unable to change the promise of Jesus is an impossibility!  Why?  Because we all do things which keep our relationship with God broken.In addition, if we cannot change, where does that leave free-will and choice?Could it even be that God designed us to be able to change?

Could it be that people who claim we are designed to act in certain ways are unwilling to accept personal responsibility for their own actions? "I can't help it!  This is just how I am." "If other people would't treat me this way I would not respond they way I do."

Wait a moment ... This line of thinking implies others need to change their actions so I may remain the same.  But this was said by the same person who claism change is not possible, we are just cimply doing what our biological or God-made programming causes us to do.

This is a contradiction at best, shifting responsibility.

If people cannot change, we cannot blame them for their actions and must either ignore it, forgive it, or let it go.

But if they can change then so can I.  And as a result I must show them the same grace as I would hope they would show me.  Not only that.  Maybe.  Just maybe, I need to accept my actions for what they are and examine how to change them where needed.

27 Jul 2012

2:08 pm Posted by Bigfish69 Posted in ,
collarNot sure if this will amount to anything but staying open ...

Monsignor Dream 27 July 2012
Had a dream this morning in which a household had two demons in it
  1. The first was within two young ladies who were lesbians
  2. The other was in an older gentlemen dressed in robes his name was monsignor ... the rest of his name sounded European, Italian not sure.

In both cases, their tongues had turned to a black goopy substance.

The first time I tried to remove the demons, they simply returned. And so with seeking God they fled and the people collapsed.

...
When I awoke, I decided to research and discovered that a monsignor is what members of the catholic clergy are referred to when they hold certain ecclesiastical honorific titles.  As such monsignor is not itself an appointment.  The three awards or offices most often associated with the style "monsignor" are
  1. Protonotary Apostolic
  2. Honorary Prelate (Domestic Prelate)
  3. Chaplain of His Holiness (Supernumerary Privy Chamberlain)
These awards are granted by the Pope, usually at the request of the local bishop.

Additional Notes:

Please be aware this dream comes in context of my seeking as to what God is doing in Canberra, as well as what is occurring in the church my family attends.  Furthermore, demon stuff has been continually spoken to me by people recently in these contexts.  Yet have had zero dreams ever like this.

Seeking God for wisdom

6 May 2012

12:40 pm Posted by Bigfish69 Posted in
The following is adapted from an article written by  Mark D. Roberts © 2011 website link

where people get their ideas of church
past experience of church … Although many have no church background, some do even if limited to weddings and funerals.  Some come with negative memories they want to avoid again.  Others are nostalgic about the past, even if it didn’t help them know God better.

pop culture … Even people who have never entered a church building may see church depicted on TV shows, movies, or books.  These shape the expectations of Christians and non-Christians alike.  While there are good images, the negative ones show pastors and church members as judgmental hypocrites or unthinking extremists.

the news … Though exceptions exist, the news in general is not positive.  Reporting on good things doesn't attract viewers or sell advertising.  Scandals do, and tend to make the headlines.

projection of personal needs and preferences … Sometimes when people have needs they expect the church to meet them, and therefore view the church through these eyes.
from analogous institutions

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Before you conclude that the bible only speaks of church as specific gatherings, please read Colossians 1 and Ephesians 3-5.  These letters indicate the church is anyone who follows Jesus. It is something that can be spoken of as a body, with Christ as the head, and appears to be some reality transcending ordinary space and time that encompasses more than a single gathering of believers.

And in this sense, we need to ask questions like:
  • Can everything God needs the church to do be achieved through occasional gatherings?
  • Do we exclude anything if we limit who we interact with?
  • How can what God gifts you with strengthen what God asks of others to do from other areas of your community?
  • What is God doing that he does not do on a Sunday between 10am-12noon?  Where is he doing this?

20 Nov 2011

12:07 pm Posted by Bigfish69 Posted in ,
After leaving a factory - electrical supplies
waited for a bus but missed it by moments
therefore caught a taxi to get ahead of it
the route of the bus was around a lake
the taxi stopped at a mountain observatory, near the lake
while waiting we noticed tomatoes that had been planted (like at work)
but as I looked an orchid spring from one of the fruits

This dream is similar to others revently where I have missed the bus while getting to work
Another was at an observatory in a mountain where waiting for transport


SYMBOLS
electrical parts factory - place of construction, practical, old way of doing connecting energy
bus - achieving goals
missing it and trying to catch at another location
- setback miss an opportunity
- bus stop is where new beginning starts
taxi - ask for help
mountain lake - God
astronomical observatory - look at the heavens, 1911 Stromlo est, as is Caberran territory 100yrs
tomatoe - domestic harmony and hapiness, fertility, somethng being grown at work
orchid spring out of - celebration, love, fertility
flower out of fruit -
connected with work objects

18 Apr 2011

11:15 am Posted by Bigfish69 Posted in , ,
adapted from a reflection by Brian Medway & Graeme Hush

introduction
Over the past twelve years of the Grace Canberra (Grace Christian Fellowship) congregation we have had opportunity to review a number of aspects of structure and ministry.  Since we separated from our previous denominational structure we have thought, prayed and studied in order to try and link Biblical revelation to contemporary circumstances.  The objective is to follow Jesus and fulfill his purpose.  At this juncture we have the opportunity of reviewing some aspects of pastoral leadership and pastoral ministry.

general new testament references to 'pastor' (poimen)
  • The relationship between Jesus and the people to whom he ministered in is likened to that of a shepherd and his sheep (Mt 9:36).
  • The relationship between Jesus and the disciples is described by the prophets as that between a shepherd and his sheep (Mt 26:31).
  • The relationship between Jesus and all people is likened to that of a shepherd and his sheep (Jn 10:11; Heb 13:20; 1Pe 2:25).
  • Identified as one of the five equipping ministries for the church (Eph 4:11).
  • Elders are charged with the challenge to combine their governmental role as willing caring servants of God’s purposes for the people rather than from a motive of greed or status (1Pe 1-4).

the idea of pastoral ministry as contrasted to the other defined ministry functions in the church
Despite the claims of some theological streams, the New Testament does not provide a definitive system for church leadership.  What it does talk about are a variety of leadership and ministry functions that are expressions of the fullness of Christ. The function of pastoral ministry is one of a number of ministry functions described in the New Testament.
If these functions example different aspects of that ministry it will help to see the function of pastor in the context of the other functions.  Our challenge will be to see that all the functions are represented so that Jesus might be the more fully known through our corporate lifestyle.

pastoral ministry
The Bible talks about the ministry function of a pastor (Ephesians 4) as an equipping ministry function in the church, in connection to four others.  Two (apostles and prophets) are described in other places as leadership functions, and three (teacher, pastor, evangelists) are ministry functions that may not infer leadership. Whether or not they should be seen as overall leadership functions doesn't cloud the the fact that they are equipping functions, represented by people who don't just DO the ministry but who EQUIP OTHERS to do the ministry.

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pastoral ministry as an integral part of the mission of the church
rather than...
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This ministry function needs to be effective because the overall task of the church is to become a kingdom force in the community. We don’t provide care to those people who want care. We need to get people well so they can go back to the front line free from physical, emotional or spiritual impediment.

The modeling of pastoral ministry by Jesus must be the first reference point for any attempt to profile the ministry itself

The primary reference point for this is the ministry of Jesus, which involved the modeling of pastoral care. It is therefore important to take reference points from there.

A direct reference to Jesus and his shepherd relationship with the disciples comes by way of a quote from the prophet Zechariah, “This very night you will all fall away on account of me, for it is written: “ ‘I will strike the shepherd, and the sheep of the flock will be scattered.’ (Matthew 26)

If Jesus was a model of pastoral leadership, who was his church?
Surely, first the twelve apostles and second, those who followed him. Yet, much of the care Jesus provided was to people who were not part of his “church.”

There is a lot of material showing the ministry of Jesus to his apostles. Not all of it represents pastoral leadership, but a significant amount constitutes the shepherd care he gave.
  • If we are going to get anything at all out of this attempt to put forward clear Biblical references to the work of pastors we must see it in its real context. And, the context for his pastoral ministry was his mission.
  • Jesus didn’t have an office to meet people in. He didn’t have a church building where people showed up for regular programs and activities. There is nothing to say that any of these are wrong in themselves, but we must be careful of making presumptions about them.
  • Jesus was indiscriminate about who he connected with, ranging from all kinds of community spheres. Wheres today, we often define the ministry by the perimeters of the church. The ministry of Jesus was missional and without walls. Any ministry to the “members” occurred along the missional journey (e.g. he took his disciples aside, spoke to them after speaking to everyone else, healed a member of Peter’s family just before the crowds came to the back door, etc).

We have created an industry that offers ministry exclusively to the church and not the community. And there always seems to be an endless and often repetitive supply of clientele.

the shepherd model
To put some balance into the equation we need to make the following observations about the shepherd model for the function of pastors (Ephesians 4). The best known is based on the character of God described in Psalm 23:
  • meeting people’s needs
  • training in righteous living
  • providing strength in times of difficulty
  • bringing celebration in the context of the battle
  • bringing the presence of goodness and love
  • keeping people in the covenant environment

judgement on neglectful shepherds in judah
The other great Old Testament image is found in Ezekiel 34 when the Lord chastises the priests for failing in their duty of care for the people.  From that passage we notice the following.

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the shepherd care of Jesus (John 10)

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pastoral ministry in the context of building church where you are
Our overall vision (Grace Canberra) is to serve the goal of seeing God's kingdom established in our region sphere by sphere using the strategy of training, commissioning, and supporting missionaries and planting churches in community spheres.

We are on a journey with coordinates that seek to follow after a ministry goal shaped by the unfulfilled desires of God revealed in Scripture.  As such we must continue to model what we do on the ministry of Jesus and the principles of God's word.
One of the issues we have to address is the will to set aside a model for doing church that has failed to effectively represent neither the heart nor the mission of Jesus Christ (see figure below). That is to stop making church the centre but rather the start.

institutional abuse of the pastoral function
The term, pastor was re-introduced to the church following the Reformation (link).  It was a term Luther, Zwingli, Calvin and other Reformation leaders used to contrast the Catholic term, 'priest.”'.  They wanted to move as far away from the idea of someone other than Jesus being a mediator between God and people.  Salvation was by faith alone and needed no intermediary.
As a result the term 'pastor':
  • Is synonymous with congregational leadership in evangelical and charismatic churches.
  • Is applied regardless of the style of leadership and particular leadership function a individual may fulfill.
  • Has gained various associated functions (e.g. senior pastor, worship pastor, youth pastor etc), with the shared idea being that a person with one or other of these titles is the leader of a department of the church.
We need to be responsible to recognise the gifts and anointing within people and then commission them and support them.  Even though 'pastor' is the term recognized widely in our community for leaders of evangelical churches and even though it is usually associated with formal recognition, we all know the church of Jesus Christ needs to see all of the functions working, and working together for the work to be accomplished.

summary of healthy assumptions
  • Pastoral care reflects the commitment to making people whole
  • Pastoral care must continue to be exercised in the church by the church to the church and community as an expression of God's heart to redeem, renew, and empower people for ministry.
  • Wholeness cannot be considered separate from the missionary call of Christ:  so our pastoral care ministry should empower people to become better missionaries.
  • Pastoral care happens best in the context of the work of the mission by fellow missionaries
  • The pastoral ministry is primarily an equipping ministry function in the church so that the whole church can become more able to provide pastoral care as and when it is needed.  It is not a separate department of the church that does the work on behalf of the rest of the church.
  • Pastoral leadership must transition from being a substitutionary function to a training and empowering one.

suggestions
  • Identify the various skills and anointings associated with pastoral ministry
  • Identify the people who represent those skills
  • Develop and implement a plan to release the people with the skills and anointing to equip as many people as possible in the church beginning with those who have formal or informal leadership responsibilities
  • Designate the people who have equipping skills as pastors
  • As part of the equipping process, we delegate as much pastoral care to the missionary activity in community spheres
  • Resist as much as possible the pressure to provide centralised substitutionary pastoral ministry.
  • Provide incidental crisis pastoral care from among designated pastoral people according to geographical or community sphere location.
  • Implement a plan to inform and encourage the church to understand our pastoral goals and seek to develop expectations that support them

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