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Do you ever say anything that is not 100% true? Do you ever behave selfishly?  Do you ever do or say things which show favour to one person over another?

If the answer to these examples is even yes, 1%, and you are likely to do this even in thought, then ...

And if it is true that if you break even one of God,s laws you break the all, then ...

It is impossible to do or say anything to fix this situation.  You could spend the rest of your life doing this or doing that to improve your behaviour, but it would still be but filthy rags(ref).

This is not to say that it is important to try and treat people and yourself more lovingly, better if you like.

But to believe that you can do something to make you relationship with God better is foolish at best.  It also states that you do not need Ch (ref) who himself claimed to be all that as needed (ref)

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self driven revelations

This was shared with Matt McGaw and inspired him to come to Canberra, Australia.

"The church in Canberra is in need of genuine fellowship"

However, his report is that after speaking with two or three local churches he gave up and decided to develop his own congregation.

Why?  Because those he spoke with did not want to take up the revelation

What happened when others who did support him approached him?  He told them he was not interested in working with them.

Unfortunately this is sometimes the way when God speaks to those willing to hear him, not all are willing or capable of pursuing things his way.  They come with agendas and therefore filter the world and the people in it.  

It is difficult to understand in situations such as this how people can claim to desire genuine authentic fellowship but feel rejected by those who do not want it and reject those who do.

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what blessing is there in a tithe?

 We are taught in some places that as followers of Christ we need to bring our tithes and offerings into the storehouse, where the storehouse today is the local church or congregation.  Why?  By paying your tithes and offerings we are taught that we will personally receive blessings and provisions, eve rebuke Satan.  Some even teach that not doing this will cause the person who holds back to be cursed.
This teaching comes from the Book of Malachi, specifically select parts of versus 3:8-11.  Excluded parts are highlighted red.

God asks: “Should people cheat God? Yet you have cheated me!  You have cheated me of the tithes and offerings due to me.You are under a curse, for your whole nation has been cheating me.Bring all the tithes into the storehouse so there will be enough food in my Temple. If you do I will open the windows of heaven for you. I will pour out a blessing so great you won’t have enough room to take it in! Try it! Put me to the test!Your crops will be abundant, for I will guard them from insects and disease. Your grapes will not fall from the vine before they are ripe,”

But is this who we should understand it?  What is the context?

Speaking to the Levitical priests of Israel, God asks: Isn’t it wrong for you (Levitical priests) to give blind animals as sacrifices?  And isn’t it wrong to offer animals that are crippled and diseased? Try giving gifts like that to your governor, and see how pleased he is!” (Malachi 1:8)

So what is the context?  The priests of Israel were being disobedient to God in that they were offering sick and injured animals to God.  Consequently, by bringing this quality of animal, they were preventing the requirements of the law to be fulfilled.  And this is significant because animals being brought into the Temple was so the priests could perform their duties in the ritual that enabled Israel’s sins to be cleansed.

It is the cleansing of sin which is the blessing, and the not offering of healthy animals that was the robbing of God.

But we don’t need to do this anymore.  We bring money so God can use it to bless the church, visiting speakers, and help the community.

Ok. But the point is not a replacement of animals for money or the Temple for the church or even the priests for pastors.  The point is the only way to have your sins cleansed was through this sacrificial ritual.  The tithes of animals was a key element.  However, now there is Jesus who was sacrificed and was resurrected.  His sacrifice is perfect, eternal, and perpetual (occurring every moment).  It is his blood that causes us to be forgiven for our sins.  His blood that rebukes the devil because he conquered death (the devil’s power over us).  His blood that created a door through which God can pour out blessings without end and with every single moment.

In other words, are the claims we are taught through the use of Malachi accurate?  Does it create hope or instill fear?  How does its current use cause people to understand and celebrate Jesus, the one who made us clean?

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to gather or to have mercy ... which is the question?

I have heard it taught that when two or three people gather together in the name of Jesus, he will be also present (Matthew 18:20).  This has come to my ears in three ways:

1. Jesus has asked all who have faith in him to gather and when we do he will turn up.  This is why we gather for Sunday church services
2. Jesus says he will be present even if there are two people of faith gathered together for his purposes.  This means we can be the church anywhere and anytime.  Large gatherings are not essential.
3. Jesus is the second person and so we can operate missional purposes individually, but still in partnership with him.

But are any of these accurate?

We could analyse these points, but I choose to start with the surround text this scripture is pulled from Matthew 18:15-35)

If brother sins against you, privately talk to them about it.  If they listen and acknowledge it, great.  But if not, take one or two other people with you and go back again, so they can witness what you are saying.[i]  If the person still refuses to listen, take your case to the church. If they still won’t accept the church’s decision, treat that person as a pagan or corrupt tax collector.

Whatever you forbidden earth will be forbidden in heaven, and whatever you permit on earth will be permitted in heaven.  Also whenever at least two people agree on earth about anything you ask, God will do it for you.  Why” Because whenever two or three gather together in Jesus’ name, he will be there among them (agree).

Then Peter asks: “But how often should I forgive someone who sins against me? Seven times?”

To which Jesus replies: “No!  490 times!  Then the Kingdom of Heaven requires you to forgive others from your heart because not to do so is like you are rejecting God’s forgiveness for you.” 

We need to have mercy on those who sin against us, just as God had mercy on us.  The consequence of not doing so is to be sent to prison to be tortured until your debt for God has been entirely repaid.

Jesus is speaking about forgiveness and restoration of relationships.  About the numerous opportunities a person needs to be given to accept their behaviour.  Talk with them in private, take a person or two to observe, take it before the broader church (not just leaders).  Failing all this, the person is viewed as having no faith.  They are unrepentant, having no faith in Jesus, and need to be treated as such.

One of the examples Jesus gives is “treat them as a tax collector” who at the time were considered some of the most vile people within the community.  Traitors even.  But hang on a moment.  Wasn’t Matthew a tax collector?  Why is this important?  Because Matthew is the one writing this!  In other words … “if the person continues to refuse what they have done, treat them as Jesus treated me.”  Wow!

While the consequences of this settles in, let us continue … when two or three are gathered.  Look at what is written again:

After speaking with the person in private, if they have not listened, take one or two people to say it again.
Therefore, with you added into the equation, this adds up to whenever two or three gather together in Jesus’ name …
In addition, if the person who had sinned against you had indeed listened and been restored to you then there would have been two (you and them) gather together in Jesus’ name

This is important because when we read the next bit, we understand gathering together in Jesus’ name means coming into agreement about the things that are important to him and thus God.

Whatever you forbidden earth will be forbidden in heaven, and whatever you permit on earth will be permitted in heaven.  Also whenever at least two people agree on earth about anything you ask, God will do it for you.  Why” Because whenever two or three gather together in Jesus’ name, he will be there among them (agree).

Forbid something or permit it.  What is important is God will make happen ANYTHING we agree to.  Why?  Because Jesus is also in the agreement.  God will do anything Jesus, his son, has signed off on.

So when Peter then asks how often to forgive someone who has done you wrong, he asks in such a way that suggests: “Surely there is a limit to how often I need to forgive someone before I can treat it as a lost cause.”  But Jesus response was “Nope!  There is no end to how many times you need to forgive them.  You need to show mercy in the same manner God has you.  Not to do so is to reject his mercy.”

This is not saying that God’s mercy is dependent upon yours.  Rather, it is saying that you have no concept of what mercy is and therefore need to continue being taught about it until you do.  That is, you have chosen to step out of the covenant made through Jesus and need to be treated as such.

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So are the ways suggested of how we should gather accurate?  Not sure.  But upon reading this passage again I see this scripture is not about meeting together but rather God’s desire for us to forgive people, show unconditional mercy, and to make reconciliatory measure to achieve it which includes involving them so they may change.  I also see that even if they reject all these efforts, we need to keep showing them mercy as Jesus did Matthew the tax collector.  For how long?  There are no time constraints.  Remembering that we need to do this in the name of Jesus and as such God will commit to its success.

And yet again this leaves me with asking how to show mercy to someone who refuses to accept they have done wrong by me?  This is a discussion for another time.  But for now I just remember Jesus’ call for us to love our enemies.

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[i] NOT about only taking people who previously know about this or have supporting examples.  They are there to listen to the conversation.

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